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Sunday, May 27th 2018, 1:38pm

Hi Ralph,

Yes indeed, very fascinating. There is always a way people can reach related family members or friends or even for business. Even under hard conditions, postal systems never failed.

Like this modern example. 52 cents inland rate. 51 cents under paid! :)

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  • Canada cover inland. Blyth, Ont to Ottawa 2008. 52 cents rate 51 cents under paid.jpg

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Tuesday, October 16th 2018, 12:24pm

I got 2 1929/30 covers from Canada to Iraq, most likely, due to the short transit time, carried though the Syro-Iraqi desert. The more interesting one, because it was short-paid in Canada, subject to Postage due in Iraq, refused in Iraq and returned to Canada where it was again subject to postage due is here:

The cover was mailed from Kentville, 10 March 1930. Baghdad arrival 29 March 1930 and is franked with 2 cents, 8 cents would have been required, which makes the letter 6 cents short-paid. The letter was refused by the addressee and 2 cent collect to the original sender. The T40 shows that it was a 8 cent UPU letter rate.
12 cents double deficiency converted to UPU ctms at the rate of 40 UPU ctms = 8 cents UPU letter rate, i.e. 5 UPU ctms = 1 cent.
I have been informed that Canada used this conversion rate with a tax reduction factor of 5/8 to align the taxation to the UPU standard of 25 UPU ctms = UPU letter rate.
12 cent => 60 UPU ctms.
60 UPU ctms * 5/8 = 37.5 which was rounded up to 40 (UPU ctms, hence the T/40 due marking. As the letter was refused and returned, the 2 cent Due Marking is paying the 2 cents postage due or fee.

The second cover i got is a single franking of 8 cents, the correct rate for a cover at that time to Iraq, mailed from Hawkesbury, 25 July 1929, arrival in Basrah 9 August 1929.

Overland Mail surcharge had been abolished at the time when the covers where mailed.
Rainer has attached the following images:
  • Canada_1930_2_Cents_Postage-Due_Front.jpg
  • Canada_1930_2_Cents_Postage-Due_Reverse.jpg
  • Canada_1929_8_Cents_Front.jpg
  • Canada_1929_8_Cents_Reverse.jpg


Friday, October 19th 2018, 10:34pm

Hallo Rainer,

They are very nice indeed! :thumbsup:

On July 1st 1930, the rate was reduced to 5 cents. Both cover are showing stamps from the so called "SCROLL" issue. 2 cents is Nr.150 and 8 cents is Nr.154 under our UNITRADE Cat using Scott Numbering System. It is one of the most beautiful issue (My opinion :))



Saturday, January 19th 2019, 5:56pm

Private POST PAR Inc. 1987-88


A little bit of lecture on this story around my birth town. The official postal system did handle a lot of those mails for free. :)…il-service.html

Hornet785 has attached the following image:
  • Canada Private POST PAR Inc. 17.06.1988.jpg


Saturday, January 19th 2019, 6:20pm

...aaaaah Sylvain, and from now on I finally got that with the canadian postal-codes 8o

Grüße !
Tim :thumbsup: